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Is the bible (or even just the commandments) really a good foundation for morals?

Posted in Working Mothers on 10th August 2012

Is the bible (or even just the commandments) really a good foundation for morals?
Do you have children?
Have they ever misbehaved beyond your control?

C. #5: “Honour thy father and thy mother.”
Punishment? Stone them to death? WTF?
Deuteronomy 21:18-21

OR

Have you every worked on the Sabbath?
Has anyone you loved ever worked on the Sabbath?

C. #4 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. ..in it thou shalt not do any work.”
Punishment? Death for working on the Sabbath?? WTF?
Exodus 31:15

Are these the awesome morals everyone is talking about?

Do we see any bible-lovers taking part in these or could it be that, maybe, people pick and choose what they want to believe? Possibly because we have higher moral values than medieval power trippers?

Is there even any need for the bible other than a reason to support these atrocities since we have established that your morals exist outside of a medieval book?
The matter is not whether it was practiced but rather that it is taught. Teaching people to stone their children because they misbehave or murder people, regardless of who they are, because they work(ed) on the Sabbath is morally absurd… yet it is stated directly as punishments for disobeying 2 of the 10 commandments.

Are these the superior Christian morals that you guys like to preach? You surely can’t believe in a few and ignore those otherwise you’d be a hippocryt.

Best answer(s):

Answer by Schneb
Can you cite for me the scripture where this was actually practiced? Obviously, this put the fear in to kids to obey their parents.

I can also cite for you the scriptures where this was NOT practiced, such as the sons of Eli, and meant nothing but misery for the parents as well as Israel.

Dr. Spock said you should never spank or discipline your children. Years later he saw that the United States was being overrun with out-of-control children–and he apologized for his advice. A little late by that time. God obviously sees the opposite tact. Scare them in to being respectful is the best for a child when he grows to be a man. As it says in the commandment, “That it might be well with you.”

It was for the eternal benefit that children learn quickly and sternly to honor one’s mother and father. But again, I will reiterate, that this was never found to be necessary to enforce. The law, in this case, worked.

Answer by Milky Way * AML * CFOD
LOL Nice avatar.

Answer by That’s why!
It’s a cut and paste religion what do you expect? Why do you think the church is divided into so many sects? Even they cannot agree amongst themselves what the truth is.

Answer by h nitrogen
Understand before criticizing. The jewish nation of the old testament was giving a special charge to establish Israel and represent God and truth the the entire world that did not know any of it. Therefore, with such privileges came a need for God’s people at that time to maintain a level of purity. This was the time when the books of the bible themselves were being written. Sin was not something that could be tolerated. Today’s charge with the Gospel of Christ is to spread the Gospel to the gentiles. Punishment will be coming to sinners just as it did then but is simply delayed and people are giving more of a chance to turn to God.

Answer by M
No; Bible is not a “good foundation for morals”; it is the Law.

OT Law is not everyone’s Law. Christianity has selectively adopted some OT Law to suit their desires. The “morals” goodness is open to their debate.

Children of Israel (Jewish people) are bound by OT Law. It is their duty.

Answer by DB
More atheist jargon. Yawn

Answer by Hogie
The old covenant law was not designed to teach morals. The law served the purpose of showing people they are sinful. The law cannot demonstrate anyone to be a good person.

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Is the bible (or even just the commandments) really a good foundation for morals?

Posted in Working Mothers on 8th August 2012

Is the bible (or even just the commandments) really a good foundation for morals?
Do you have children?
Have they ever misbehaved beyond your control?

C. #5: “Honour thy father and thy mother.”
Punishment? Stone them to death? WTF?
Deuteronomy 21:18-21

OR

Have you every worked on the Sabbath?
Has anyone you loved ever worked on the Sabbath?

C. #4 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. ..in it thou shalt not do any work.”
Punishment? Death for working on the Sabbath?? WTF?
Exodus 31:15

Are these the awesome morals everyone is talking about?

Do we see any bible-lovers taking part in these or could it be that, maybe, people pick and choose what they want to believe? Possibly because we have higher moral values than medieval power trippers?

Is there even any need for the bible other than a reason to support these atrocities since we have established that your morals exist outside of a medieval book?

Please don’t even bother posting if you’re going to side-step.

Best answer(s):

Answer by mandy
read the sermen on the mount in the book of mathew

Answer by James B
The Golden Rule is in the bible. It may be the only worthwhile thing in the bible.

Answer by yasses
Yes i have worked on the sabbath.Oops……..
I was a nurse. God looks in the heart,not if you are a fanatic with the commandments!
Did I side step? Very demanding you are.!

Answer by Aslan
i think that the bible IS the best basis for a moral foundation that there is

the commandments were binding on the Jewish people of moses time and they didn’t have local or national laws before that

they didn’t have prisons either so holding someone in custody was not an issue they could indulge in either

thesedays – our nation is NOT a Jewish nation and the law was fulfilled under Christ so the law is no longer binding

Answer by Blame Amy
The more I come here the more frustrated I get that the Bible is still in print.

Answer by craig b
Morals are not something you learned but were born with. You don’t have to tell a child to not steal – they will steal anyway and when you confront them about it, they will hang their head in shame and/or lie about doing it. Why?
Because deep inside, they know what they did was wrong and that’s why they feel shame and guilt.
They’re only 2!
How could they know shame or guilt?
They know, for God already put that inside of each and every one of us.

Answer by BILL
Of Course!

2 Timothy 3:15-17 (New International Version)
New International Version (NIV)
Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984 by International Bible Society

15and how from infancy you have known the holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. 16All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

Answer by Jason F
This is what God says in the Bible.
2Tim.2:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
“Rightly dividing the Word of truth” this is saying that there are certain time frames in the Bible that we need to understand. This could get quite exhaustive, so I would be glad to explain more if you would care to contact me. And yes, i do have scripture to back it up.

Answer by jesusteachingonlyhesavesamen
Oh its pretty obvious that you are just picking verses from the Bible , Because of Jesus we are under a new covenant , when you give your life to Jesus and let him rest rule and abide in you, there are things that Jesus just want allow ,yes he has high standards he created them, don’t you care to ask why all the bad things you do , are the things that are bad for you, Jesus don’t allow, he has our best interest in his hands, Satan don’t care what you do as long as it don’t line up with God, he likes to keep you confused about who God is , he knows who God is he was his right hand man til he got big headed………………AMEN

Answer by Crazy Bee
I people would follow the Bible there wouldn’t be any need for asinine questions we get on here. The Bible could bring peace to the world( even with the many different denominations ) If we all learned to live by our own and not persecute the others. Christians are persecuted daily, but then Jesus said we would be,for His word. There are failings on the Sabbath, because in this day and age , if you don’t work when yuo’re told ,then you don’t have a job. But, if you remember Jesus healed on the Sabbath and this helped lead to His crucifiction.Jesus said ,if an oxen fell into a ditch on the Sabbath, would you leave it there? Meaning that you would get it out. There are some cases where you have to work.So why condemn——why not study the whole scriipture especially read the N.T.?You really can’t just take a verse here and there and think it’s the way you have to be. You need to read it all and comprehend it.Yes there is reason for the Bible because it is the outline for a happy and glorious life—-if you follow it. The O.T is wonderful—-but–until you can grow in the faith and comprehend, I’s suggest you stay in the New Testement until you understand Jesus fully. You are getting very confused and confusing others. O.K.